but they are still after us. they still want to do us harm. and they still want to get at as any way they can, in our view. intent is the driving force here behind the terrorist activity and it remains the same. >> i think governor kaine and mr. carlson is absolutely right. we have seen terrorist organizations becoming much more comfortable in their communications. someone in the united states, they can communicate and has theological credentials as a credentials scholars -- and has to lodge a credentials and academic scholars but is from new mexico. the threat is radiated outwards from al qaeda central itself. it used to be that if you wanted to be a terrorist or if you wanted terrorist training, you went to one point, either afghanistan or, more recently, pakistan. one of the problems that is part of al qaeda's strategy to enlist, to encourage, to motivate light-minded jihadi groups to spread their wings has meant that individuals looking to receive terrorist training, unfortunately, today have more destinations to select from to go. they te